If I Follow ‘The Path’, Am I an Agnostic, Atheist, Deist, or Something Else?

I once watched a heated conversation unfold at a coffee shop in Berkeley. A philosophy student was interrogating a woman about her beliefs, firing off questions like a prosecutor cross-examining a witness. “Are you religious or secular? Theist or atheist? Spiritual or materialist?” With each label he proposed, her face grew more uncomfortable. Finally, she set down her cup and said, “You know what? I’m Sarah. I care about my family, I try to help my neighbors, and I think we should treat each other with kindness. Why does everything else need a category?”

That moment captures something essential about The Path. We’ve learned that applying rigid labels to people is not just counterproductive, it’s fundamentally misguided. Everyone’s journey toward understanding is different. Everyone’s relationship with mystery, meaning, and morality is unique. The moment we try to squeeze the complexity of human experience into neat philosophical boxes, we lose something vital about what makes us distinctly human.

Yet I understand why people ask this question. In a world that loves categories, where dating apps ask for your religious views and political surveys demand you choose from dropdown menus, people want to know where they fit. So let me share what I’ve observed about those who walk The Path and how our approach relates to other philosophical positions.

The foundation of The Path rests on a simple recognition: human societies need shared moral and ethical principles to function. Without frameworks for teaching right from wrong, for encouraging compassion over cruelty, for promoting cooperation over chaos, communities fracture and civilizations crumble. We’ve seen this pattern throughout history. Remove the shared understanding of how humans should treat one another, and you get not enlightened freedom but social disintegration.

For thousands of years, religions provided these essential frameworks. They taught children to care for the vulnerable, to tell the truth, to forgive those who wronged them, to work for justice. They created communities that supported people through life’s transitions and challenges. They preserved wisdom about human nature that helped societies flourish.

But here’s where we must be honest about what we’ve learned. The traditional religious approach to moral teaching has become not just outdated but dangerous in our current era.

Consider how many religious institutions teach children they are inherently sinful and deserving of eternal punishment, creating psychological wounds that can take decades to heal. Think about how supernatural claims, virgin births and resurrections and worldwide floods, contradict everything we’ve discovered through scientific inquiry, forcing people to choose between reason and faith. Observe how religious certainty has been weaponized to justify discrimination, to resist social progress, to accumulate power and wealth while preaching humility and service.

Most troubling of all, witness how religious nationalism now threatens democratic institutions, how the same teachings that once promoted compassion are being twisted to justify exclusion and oppression. When religious leaders claim divine authority for very human political positions, when they use fear of divine punishment to control behavior and extract resources, when they demand unquestioning obedience to human interpretations of ancient texts, they’ve transformed spiritual wisdom into something that harms rather than heals.

This is why millions have walked away from traditional religion, and why The Path has emerged as an alternative. We recognize that the moral wisdom remains essential, but the supernatural framework has become a barrier to both truth and justice.

So how does this relate to other philosophical positions? Let me paint you some pictures.

Last month, I met David, a software engineer who proudly identifies as an atheist. “Religion is poison,” he told me over lunch, his voice carrying the certainty of someone who’d escaped what he saw as delusion. “It’s all mythology designed to control people. The sooner we abandon these ancient superstitions, the better off we’ll be.”

David represents one common atheist position: not just the absence of belief in supernatural claims, but active opposition to religious frameworks entirely. Many atheists see religion as fundamentally harmful, a relic of humanity’s ignorant past that we need to outgrow completely.

The Path shares the atheist rejection of supernatural claims. We don’t believe in virgin births or resurrections. We don’t think prayers change weather patterns or heal diseases through divine intervention. We see no evidence for heavenly rewards or hellish punishments in some afterlife.

But here’s where we diverge: we recognize that religious traditions contain profound insights about human flourishing that remain valuable even when stripped of supernatural elements. The teachings of Jesus about compassion, forgiveness, and justice aren’t invalidated by our rejection of his supposed divine nature. The community structures that religions created to support people through life’s challenges don’t become worthless because we don’t believe in the theological claims that originally motivated them.

David’s atheism, like many others, tends toward what we might call “hard materialism,” the view that reality consists only of matter and energy, that consciousness is merely brain activity, and that meaning must be entirely self-created. While The Path embraces scientific understanding, we remain open to the possibility that reality contains dimensions we don’t yet comprehend, patterns and connections that transcend simple materialism.

Then there’s Janet, a teacher I know who describes herself as agnostic. “I just don’t think we can know,” she explains, her hands gesturing toward some invisible uncertainty. “Maybe there’s a God, maybe there isn’t. Maybe consciousness survives death, maybe it doesn’t. The honest position is to admit we don’t have enough information to decide.”

Classical agnosticism, as formulated by biologist Thomas Huxley, holds that humans cannot know whether God exists or what the nature of ultimate reality might be. It’s a position of intellectual humility, acknowledging the limits of human knowledge and understanding.

The Path appreciates this humility. We don’t claim certainty about ultimate questions that may be beyond human comprehension. We recognize that the universe contains mysteries we may never fully solve, patterns and principles that operate beyond our current understanding.

But agnosticism often leads to a kind of philosophical paralysis. If we can’t know anything about ultimate reality, if all positions are equally uncertain, then we’re left without guidance for life’s practical questions. How should we treat others? What kind of communities should we build? How do we find meaning in the face of mortality?

The Path suggests we can acknowledge mystery while still making reasoned decisions based on available evidence. We can remain humble about ultimate questions while confidently affirming that compassion creates better outcomes than cruelty, that truth-seeking is more valuable than willful ignorance, that communities built on mutual support are stronger than those based on competition and exclusion.

This brings us to deism, and here’s where The Path finds its closest philosophical alignment.

Picture Thomas Jefferson in his study at Monticello, carefully cutting passages from his Bible with a razor blade. He’s creating what would become known as the Jefferson Bible, removing all supernatural elements while preserving the moral teachings he considered essential. Jefferson was a deist, someone who believed in what he called “Nature’s God,” a creative force that established the rational laws governing the universe but didn’t intervene in human affairs through miracles or revelations.

Deism emerged during the Enlightenment as educated people sought to reconcile religious insight with scientific discovery. Deists saw the universe as operating according to natural laws that could be discovered through reason and observation. They honored the wisdom found in religious traditions while rejecting supernatural claims that contradicted evidence and logic.

The Path builds on this deistic foundation while extending it further. Like deists, we see the universe as operating according to discoverable principles. We find meaning and moral guidance through reason, observation, and experience rather than through claimed revelations or supernatural interventions. We appreciate the profound wisdom contained in religious traditions while distinguishing between timeless insights and time-bound mythology.

But where traditional deism often remained abstractly philosophical, The Path emphasizes practical community building and ethical action. We don’t just contemplate natural law, we use our understanding to create better lives and stronger communities. We don’t just honor ancient wisdom, we apply it to contemporary challenges.

Consider Sarah, a member of an Assembly in Portland. When asked about her beliefs, she doesn’t immediately reach for labels. Instead, she describes her experience: “I find wonder in scientific discovery and meaning in ethical action. I see patterns in the universe that suggest something greater than random chance, but I don’t need to call it God or worship it through ritual. What matters to me is living according to principles that enhance human flourishing and building communities that support each other through life’s challenges.”

Sarah’s perspective captures something essential about The Path. We’re less concerned with metaphysical categories than with practical wisdom. We’re more interested in how we live than in how we label ourselves.

This doesn’t mean we avoid all philosophical reflection. The Testament, our foundational text developed collaboratively and available in our GitHub repository, explores these questions thoughtfully. Chapter 3, “Beyond the Supernatural,” examines how we can preserve religious wisdom while abandoning supernatural claims. The appendix on Deism traces our philosophical heritage while showing how we’ve evolved beyond traditional deistic positions.

But ultimately, The Path suggests that the question “What am I?” matters less than the questions “How am I living?” and “How are we growing together?”

If you find yourself drawn to The Path, you might discover elements that align with various philosophical traditions. Your respect for scientific evidence and rejection of supernatural claims might feel atheistic. Your humility about ultimate questions might feel agnostic. Your appreciation for the rational order underlying existence might feel deistic.

But here’s what I’ve observed: people who walk The Path tend to move beyond these categories toward something more integrated and practical. They become less concerned with defending philosophical positions and more focused on living ethical lives. They spend less energy debating metaphysical claims and more energy building supportive communities. They worry less about having the right beliefs and more about developing the right practices.

Marcus, a former philosophy professor who now facilitates an Assembly in Chicago, puts it this way: “I used to spend hours debating whether I was technically an atheist or an agnostic or a deist. Now I spend that time helping my neighbors, learning from scientific discoveries, and working with others to create the kind of community we all want to live in. The label matters less than the life.”

So if someone asks whether following The Path makes you an atheist, agnostic, deist, or something else, consider responding as Sarah did in that Berkeley coffee shop. You’re a person trying to live ethically in a complex world. You’re someone who values both reason and compassion, both scientific understanding and moral wisdom. You’re part of a community working to preserve what’s valuable from religious traditions while building something new and honest for our current era.

The Path invites you to be exactly who you are while growing into who you might become. It asks not for doctrinal conformity but for sincere engagement with life’s deepest questions. It offers not certainty about ultimate reality but companionship on the journey toward greater understanding and more consistent ethical action.

In the end, perhaps the most honest answer to “What does following The Path make me?” is simply this: more awake, more connected, more committed to the flourishing of all life. And in a world desperate for people who combine rational thinking with compassionate action, that identity might be exactly what we need.

The question isn’t whether you’re an atheist, agnostic, deist, or something else. The question is whether you’re ready to walk a path that honors both the mind’s need for truth and the heart’s hunger for meaning, that preserves ancient wisdom while embracing contemporary understanding, that builds communities of purpose in a world that desperately needs them.

Welcome to The Path. However you choose to label the journey, we’re glad you’re walking it with us.

16 responses

  1. “But here’s where we diverge: we recognize that religious traditions contain profound insights about human flourishing that remain valuable even when stripped of supernatural elements. The teachings of Jesus about compassion, forgiveness, and justice aren’t invalidated by our rejection of his supposed divine nature. The community structures that religions created to support people through life’s challenges don’t become worthless because we don’t believe in the theological claims that originally motivated them.”You typically ignore anything from the bible that Jesus supposedly says that doesn’t fit with your version. This jesus says to kill those who disagree with you, repeatly saying that one should follow the laws in the old testament. This seems quite deceitful in your “path”.

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    1. You raise an excellent point, and I appreciate your direct challenge. You’re absolutely right that we’re being selective with Jesus’s teachings, and we should be more transparent about that process.

      The approach we take is similar to Thomas Jefferson’s when he created his Bible – we distinguish between what historical scholars believe reflects the actual ethical teacher versus later additions by Gospel writers decades after Jesus’s death. Many of the harsh passages you’re referencing, particularly those about following Old Testament laws or violent enforcement, appear to contradict the core message of compassion and are likely later theological additions.

      But here’s the key: even if the historical Jesus did say some of those harsh things, we wouldn’t follow them. We’re not trying to reconstruct perfect historical accuracy – we’re extracting ethical wisdom that enhances human flourishing. If something promotes cruelty or violence, we reject it regardless of the source.

      You could call this ‘cherry-picking,’ and you wouldn’t be wrong. But we apply the same standard to all wisdom traditions – we take what promotes compassion, justice, and human wellbeing, and we leave what doesn’t. Even from modern ethical philosophers, we don’t accept everything wholesale.

      The ‘deceitful’ part would be if we claimed to follow Jesus completely while ignoring inconvenient teachings. We’re being upfront that we’re taking specific ethical insights, not accepting everything attributed to him.

      Does this approach work for everyone? Clearly not for you, and that’s perfectly valid. Some people need more consistency in their sources. We respect that different approaches work for different people.

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      1. Unsurprisngly, your claims about what jesus did and didn’t say are baseless, since you have no idea on how to determine that. Historical scholars don’t question Matthew 5 as what this jesus supposedly said (having no evidence for him at all, either historical or as supernatural) so your attempts to ignore those inconvenient bits doesn’t work very well. There’s no reason to assume jesus existed at all, or said any of this.

        You simply claim this jesus is compassionate, and nothing shows that. Indeed, there are at least two completely different jesuses in the bible. So yours isn’t any more likely than the other.

        I know you wouldn’t follow them, so attempting to harness your horse to jesus is rather silly. Compassion was around a lot longer than this ignorant religion and its imaginary leader. It seems all you are doing is trying an argument from authority fallacy by appealing to jesus.

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        1. You’re making several strong points that deserve honest engagement. You’re right that the historical existence of Jesus is debated, and you’re correct that I can’t definitively separate ‘authentic’ Jesus teachings from later additions – that was imprecise language on my part.

          You’ve also identified something important: we’re not actually making an argument from authority. We’re not saying ‘these principles are good because Jesus said them.’ We’re saying ‘these principles are good because they demonstrably improve human flourishing, and they happen to be found in teachings attributed to Jesus.’

          You’re absolutely right that compassion, forgiveness, and justice existed long before Christianity. Greek philosophers, Buddhist teachers, and countless other traditions explored these concepts. We could just as easily reference Marcus Aurelius or the Buddha or contemporary research on human wellbeing.

          So why mention Jesus at all? Honestly, it’s partly practical. Many people in our culture are familiar with these particular teachings, even if they’ve rejected Christianity. It provides a common reference point for discussing ethics. But you’re correct that it’s not necessary.

          The Path isn’t really about Jesus – it’s about building communities around principles that enhance human flourishing, using evidence and reason rather than supernatural claims. If referencing Jesus creates more confusion than clarity, we should probably do it less.

          Your critique helps clarify something important: we’re not Christians trying to reform Christianity. We’re people interested in ethical living who find some useful concepts in various wisdom traditions, including some attributed to Jesus. But the principles stand or fall on their merit, not their source.

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          1. Indeed, why mention jesus at all? This jesus says for his followers to bring those who don’t want to follow him before him and kill them.

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            1. The Path isn’t trying to rescue Jesus’s reputation or convert anyone to a kinder Christianity. We’re simply people who found some ethical insights worth preserving while completely rejecting supernatural claims and harmful teachings.

              If focusing on Jesus feels like too much baggage, that’s completely understandable. The principles we care about – compassion, justice, community support – exist independently of any religious figure.

              I’m genuinely curious – is your concern specifically about referencing Jesus, or is there something deeper that’s bothering you about The Path’s approach?

              I’m hearing real frustration in your responses, and I’d rather understand where that’s coming from than keep debating biblical interpretations.

              Is it that any reference to religious figures feels like intellectual dishonesty to you? Have you had experiences with people using Jesus’s name to justify harmful things? Or is it something else entirely about how we’re framing ethics and community?

              I’m not trying to convince you of anything – I’m actually interested in understanding your perspective. What would an honest approach to ethics and community look like from your point of view?

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              1. in ignoring what jesus also supposed said, you are being deceitful when presenting only one side of the story. Why keep the baggage?

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                1. It sounds like you see The Path as fundamentally dishonest about Jesus. That we’re packaging something deceptive by highlighting compassion while downplaying the harsh stuff.

                  You seem to be saying there’s no good reason to drag Jesus into this at all – that we’re creating unnecessary baggage for ourselves.

                  Help me understand this: when you say we’re being ‘deceitful,’ what do you think our real agenda is? What do you think we’re actually trying to accomplish by referencing Jesus when, as you point out, we could just focus on ethics without him?

                  Because I’m getting the sense this isn’t really about biblical interpretation. It feels like there’s something about The Path’s approach that strikes you as fundamentally wrong or misleading.

                  What is it that you think we’re really doing here?

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                  1. You say it is about what jesus taught. From what it looks like to me, you seem to be trying to benefit from associating yourselves with jesus since a large part of humanity associates jesus with “good” while ignoring all of the unpleasant things this character is claimed to have said.

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                    1. So you see us as trying to have it both ways – getting the marketing benefit of Jesus’s ‘good guy’ reputation while conveniently ignoring the parts that would turn people off.

                      That sounds like you think we’re being manipulative rather than honest. Like we’re using Jesus as a brand name to make our ideas more palatable.

                      But here’s what I’m curious about: if we were really just trying to ride Jesus’s coattails for marketing purposes, wouldn’t we be a lot more… well, Christian about it? Wouldn’t we be trying to attract actual Christians rather than telling them their supernatural beliefs are wrong?

                      How does it make sense to use Jesus for marketing appeal while simultaneously telling most Christians that we reject the resurrection, virgin birth, and everything that makes Jesus divine to them?

                      What kind of marketing strategy drives away your biggest potential customer base?

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                    2. Let me ask you this, what would change if you left jesus out of your message?

                      Again, you appear to be appealing to a common idea that jesus equals “good” and hide that which doesn’t agree with you.

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                    3. It sounds like no answer I give about Jesus is going to satisfy you. You keep coming back to us being deceptive, even when I point out the logical problems with your theory.

                      Here’s what I’m sensing: this isn’t really about whether we’re being intellectually honest about Jesus. This feels personal for you.

                      It seems like you’ve been hurt by people who used Jesus’s name to justify harmful things, or maybe you’ve watched religious people be hypocritical in ways that really bothered you.

                      I must ask, how am I supposed to have a conversation about ethics and community with someone who sees any mention of Jesus as automatically dishonest – even when we’re explicitly rejecting most of what Christians believe about him?

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                    4. Again, if you dropped jesus, what would change?

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                    5. You’re right to keep asking that question. And here’s the answer: very little would change.

                      The principles we care about – treating people with dignity, building supportive communities, using evidence and reason, practicing empathy – they all stand completely on their own. We could reference Marcus Aurelius, or Buddhist teachings, or contemporary research on human wellbeing, or just make the case purely on practical grounds.

                      But here’s why we choose to keep referencing Jesus: those particular ethical insights – loving your enemies, caring for outcasts, choosing forgiveness over revenge – were genuinely revolutionary when he taught them and remain powerful today. We’re not trying to ride his reputation; we’re trying to preserve wisdom that might otherwise be lost when people reject Christianity.

                      The Path isn’t about worshipping Jesus or accepting supernatural claims about him. It’s about building ethical communities using reason and evidence, while drawing on the best insights from various sources – including those attributed to Jesus.

                      You clearly think any reference to Jesus is inherently dishonest or manipulative. I think we just fundamentally disagree on that point.

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                    6. your claims about jesus aren’t true if you know about the stoics. Jesus contradicts himself, so where is the wisdom? And yes we do disagree.

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                    7. You’re absolutely right about the Stoics – Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, and Seneca were teaching many of these principles centuries before Jesus. And you’re right that the texts attributed to Jesus contain contradictions.

                      I can’t argue with either of those points. The ethical insights we value weren’t original to Jesus, and the Gospel accounts aren’t internally consistent.

                      I suppose where we end up is that The Path finds value in preserving these particular formulations of ancient wisdom, even when they’re imperfectly recorded and not historically original. You see that as unnecessary baggage that creates more problems than it solves.

                      That’s a fair disagreement to have. I appreciate you pushing back – it’s helped me think more clearly about why we make the choices we do, even if we end up in different places.

                      Thanks for the conversation.

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